Comments on: Hillary as Woman http://www.tinmanic.com/archives/2008/05/20/hillary-as-woman/ Wed, 08 Feb 2012 17:46:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3 By: Mike http://www.tinmanic.com/archives/2008/05/20/hillary-as-woman/comment-page-1/#comment-126739 Mike Wed, 21 May 2008 20:05:29 +0000 http://www.tinmanic.com/?p=2786#comment-126739 Also, the people claiming that the HRC campaign is revealing America's hidden yet contradictorily endemic sexism are suffering from confirmation bias. Never a word is said about the two women holding offices of incredible power right this very moment: Rice and Pelosi, or the reactions of the public to them. And why not? Because they dissolve the whole complaint. Any criticism I've heard of either of them has been of decisions they've made or actions they've taken. Not once have I heard anyone say that C. Rice or N. Pelosi 'have no business' in the positions they've attained, or that a woman couldn't/shouldn't hack the job. It's all been entirely on the merit of their choices, and you can't get much fairer (non-sexist) than that. Also, the people claiming that the HRC campaign is revealing America’s hidden yet contradictorily endemic sexism are suffering from confirmation bias.

Never a word is said about the two women holding offices of incredible power right this very moment: Rice and Pelosi, or the reactions of the public to them.

And why not? Because they dissolve the whole complaint. Any criticism I’ve heard of either of them has been of decisions they’ve made or actions they’ve taken.

Not once have I heard anyone say that C. Rice or N. Pelosi ‘have no business’ in the positions they’ve attained, or that a woman couldn’t/shouldn’t hack the job. It’s all been entirely on the merit of their choices, and you can’t get much fairer (non-sexist) than that.

]]> By: Bart http://www.tinmanic.com/archives/2008/05/20/hillary-as-woman/comment-page-1/#comment-126728 Bart Tue, 20 May 2008 17:47:12 +0000 http://www.tinmanic.com/?p=2786#comment-126728 Yeah the people making excuses about Hilary being a woman have bothered me too. There are plenty of reasons why people hate Hilary that don't have anything to do with her being a woman. People hate Hilary because she's Hilary (and because she's a Clinton). I would go as far as to say that any other woman in her place would have been treated completely differently, and maybe with another woman sexism would have been a bigger issue, but in this case Hilary's problems transcend her gender. Yeah the people making excuses about Hilary being a woman have bothered me too. There are plenty of reasons why people hate Hilary that don’t have anything to do with her being a woman. People hate Hilary because she’s Hilary (and because she’s a Clinton). I would go as far as to say that any other woman in her place would have been treated completely differently, and maybe with another woman sexism would have been a bigger issue, but in this case Hilary’s problems transcend her gender.

]]> By: Tin Man http://www.tinmanic.com/archives/2008/05/20/hillary-as-woman/comment-page-1/#comment-126725 Tin Man Tue, 20 May 2008 17:16:17 +0000 http://www.tinmanic.com/?p=2786#comment-126725 See, I disagree with you about Dowd. I don't think she's typical or representative of the way media folk have been treating Clinton. Dowd is obsessed with gender but in a different way from the old guard. And she picks on everyone, regardless of gender or political party. Her schtick is built on snark. See, I disagree with you about Dowd. I don’t think she’s typical or representative of the way media folk have been treating Clinton. Dowd is obsessed with gender but in a different way from the old guard. And she picks on everyone, regardless of gender or political party. Her schtick is built on snark.

]]> By: Eric http://www.tinmanic.com/archives/2008/05/20/hillary-as-woman/comment-page-1/#comment-126724 Eric Tue, 20 May 2008 17:03:04 +0000 http://www.tinmanic.com/?p=2786#comment-126724 I think Clinton's campaign, both the positives towards her and the negatives, has been regarded ENTIRELY due to her being female. In much the same way that the attacks against Obama's race haven't been consistent but are definitely there, not every single thing targeting Clinton is sexist. But, when our own supposedly liberal media folk (I'm lookin' at you, Maureen Dowd) routinely attempt to emasculate our male candidates and resort to typical shrewish descriptions of Clinton, I think it's pretty clear a large majority of the ire directed towards her is due to "uppity woman" status. I think Clinton’s campaign, both the positives towards her and the negatives, has been regarded ENTIRELY due to her being female.
In much the same way that the attacks against Obama’s race haven’t been consistent but are definitely there, not every single thing targeting Clinton is sexist.
But, when our own supposedly liberal media folk (I’m lookin’ at you, Maureen Dowd) routinely attempt to emasculate our male candidates and resort to typical shrewish descriptions of Clinton, I think it’s pretty clear a large majority of the ire directed towards her is due to “uppity woman” status.

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